Teer

New Gaming Rig - Need Advice

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Hey guys and gals,

 

So as the title say. I'm getting around to taking apart my laptop and PC and I want to sell the parts, save up some money and buy a new gaming PC. I want it to be a budget version (an entry level so to speak) and I want to be able to upgrade it with time.

I will set my budget to 250 GBP (hopefully this will suffice).

I already have a monitor (not the best but will do, I'll get a better one when I can), keyboard, mouse and headset. So the only thing I need is a box and all the components ;p

So I'm looking for suggestions, which motherboard, processor, graphics card, RAM memory, SSD, sound card, network card, etc. i should get. Bear in mind I'm looking at the cheap-ish options now. The possibility of an easy upgrade of key components is important. 

 

Cheers

Teer.

 

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1 hour ago, Teer said:

Hey guys and gals,

 

So as the title say. I'm getting around to taking apart my laptop and PC and I want to sell the parts, save up some money and buy a new gaming PC. I want it to be a budget version (an entry level so to speak) and I want to be able to upgrade it with time.

I will set my budget to 250 GBP (hopefully this will suffice).

I already have a monitor (not the best but will do, I'll get a better one when I can), keyboard, mouse and headset. So the only thing I need is a box and all the components ;p

So I'm looking for suggestions, which motherboard, processor, graphics card, RAM memory, SSD, sound card, network card, etc. i should get. Bear in mind I'm looking at the cheap-ish options now. The possibility of an easy upgrade of key components is important. 

 

Cheers

Teer.

 

With that budged i would check for used ones. I doubt you can find new even low spec one with it. Or might be able with integrated everything and end up 10fps on low in bf4.

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1 hour ago, Teer said:

Hey guys and gals,

 

So as the title say. I'm getting around to taking apart my laptop and PC and I want to sell the parts, save up some money and buy a new gaming PC. I want it to be a budget version (an entry level so to speak) and I want to be able to upgrade it with time.

I will set my budget to 250 GBP (hopefully this will suffice).

I already have a monitor (not the best but will do, I'll get a better one when I can), keyboard, mouse and headset. So the only thing I need is a box and all the components ;p

So I'm looking for suggestions, which motherboard, processor, graphics card, RAM memory, SSD, sound card, network card, etc. i should get. Bear in mind I'm looking at the cheap-ish options now. The possibility of an easy upgrade of key components is important. 

 

Cheers

Teer.

 

Maybe it could help if you tell us what you have in your actual PC?

Maybe there are some parts that are ok that you can keep and upgrade from there.

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17 minutes ago, El Zartan said:

Maybe it could help if you tell us what you have in your actual PC?

 

Thiss ^^

you might be able to add new CPU and GPU.

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I'm actually just upgrading my GPU, so I might be able to help you out with a cheap gtx 970 (Asus Strix) for cheap (how cheap I'm not actually sure yet.) Also depends on what other parts you need to buy, so like what's said above, post what you already have, and what you need.

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5 hours ago, Ruyi said:

I'm actually just upgrading my GPU, so I might be able to help you out with a cheap gtx 970 (Asus Strix) for cheap (how cheap I'm not actually sure yet.) Also depends on what other parts you need to buy, so like what's said above, post what you already have, and what you need.

Yea that is what i will do probably upgrading to 1080ti from 970. But my brother will get my old card

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Generally speaking most people upgrade the RAM, CPU and Motherboard all in one hit, so my advice would be to search for a used bundle on ebay, although imagine just this alone will use up most of your budget. My old machine used the i5 2500k CPU and it worked well, so i could only advise to start looking there. Here are a few examples of what is out there though.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gtx-970-i5-2500k-Motherboard-16gb-RAM-Bundle-/172347913569?hash=item2820bc7561:g:of0AAOSwCGVX4CLl

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Core-i5-corsair-16gb-motherboard-and-cooler-bundle-/252552049399?hash=item3acd4672f7:g:LHUAAOSwLF1X39W9

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/I5-3570K-12GB-RAM-Gigabyte-Z77X-D3H-mSata-SSD-motherboard-bundle-/302065506542?hash=item465481d8ee:g:Ik8AAOSwFe5X0Qmo

 

as for a case, i have an old Cooler Master Cosmos II that i no longer have a use for that i would be willing to give you for nothing. But be warned, Its really made with watercooling systems in mind and as a result is fucking HUGEEEEEE lol.

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I can confirm that the case is huge but it's a good case and you can put whatever you want in it. I'll have a look to see if I've got anything to help you. I might have some corsair fans and other bits and bobs you can have.

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Hey guys thanks for the replies. I actually went to bed yesterday and thought to myself...hang on...250? No way I'm gonna get something for that xD

Anyways. My current PC is not worth upgrading I don't think. I'd have to get a new motherboard in order to be able to put some new hardware worth anything in it. So I'm pretty much looking at getting something new.

So let's assume a little bit higher budget. Say 400 quid. Can we do anything with that?

As for my laptop which I use for gaming, I have installed more RAM a while back and I could upgrade the processor to a quad core (I've i5 2540M dual core atm) but I'm thinking of selling the laptop anyway so no point spending 60 quid on a new processor (and that's too expensive for the processor I was considering which is the i7 2630QM).

As for my PC, I bought it back in 2009 and it wasn't top shelf back then, definitely isn't now. I don't think it's worth doing anything with it apart from trying to sell it for the best price I can get for it.

@bizzl3 thanks for suggestions and the offer. But it might be a "waste of case" so to speak, I don't know what I could put in there yet xD

@VernCheese Same as above thank you for the offer but let's see what we can come up with first ;)

Can you guys recommend a good place to put together a custom PC? I mean like a website, something along the lines of this https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/custom-pc/ where you can choose your own components.

This way I could try and make something basic, post the specs here and then we could start a discussion about what and why we could change, add, take away, make substitute with a used part etc. 

Oh and @orq yeah you're right. I looked up some PCs yesterday and the cheap ones did in fact have integrated graphics and other stuff. Definitely don't want that ^^

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Why don't you put it together by your self. There are plenty of instructions online how to do it.

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That's why I asked if anyone can recommend a good website to build custom PC for starters, and then I could post the specs and ask what everyone thinks about it. I'm not very up to date with all the latest tech and stuff. Sure I can put something together, but I don't know whether it would be any good. And a lot of people here know more about whether this RAM cube is better than the other, etc. 

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26 minutes ago, Teer said:

So let's assume a little bit higher budget. Say 400 quid. Can we do anything with that?

Unless you look for used components, you won't get very far with that budget, I'm afraid.
If you're not in a hurry and would rather build something new, I'd advise you to save up some money.
For a new build, I'd double your budget, if you want something to last you for a while.

What's most important, in my opinion, is to get a decent PSU (don't go cheap) and a fairly new CPU architecture.
The GPU can always be swapped out for a better one, but having to change the Motherboard/CPU/RAM due to a platform upgrade can be very costly.

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3 minutes ago, MrIbra said:

Unless you look for used components, you won't get very far with that budget, I'm afraid.
If you're not in a hurry and would rather build something new, I'd advise you to save up some money.
For a new build, I'd double your budget, if you want something to last you for a while.

What's most important, in my opinion, is to get a decent PSU (don't go cheap) and a fairly new CPU architecture.
The GPU can always be swapped out for a better one, but having to change the Motherboard/CPU/RAM is not as straight-forward and can be very costly.

Fair enough you're probably right. I will see what I can get for my current equipment and then we'll see how much I need to save up. I'm not really in that much of a hurry. Tbh I'd keep playing with what I have but I'm just so frustrated with bf4 atm that I'd just like to have something new so that I could finally enjoy the game rather than having to restart it every 5 minutes. Might take a while before I save up though, still looking for a bloody job ;/

Anyway nvm, scrap the topic.

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8 minutes ago, Teer said:

Fair enough you're probably right. I will see what I can get for my current equipment and then we'll see how much I need to save up. I'm not really in that much of a hurry. Tbh I'd keep playing with what I have but I'm just so frustrated with bf4 atm that I'd just like to have something new so that I could finally enjoy the game rather than having to restart it every 5 minutes. Might take a while before I save up though, still looking for a bloody job ;/

Anyway nvm, scrap the topic.

Well, you could accept the kind offers of your fellow comrades and get some stuff for free or very cheap! ^_^
It's up to you, of course.

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I can donate case but it would be expensive to ship anywhere.  I would go for used parts with that budged. I think lot of guys here have loads of old HW you could fit nicely to a "new" gaming rig. Others you can find from amazon and ebay. If you go to new parts your whole budged will go to new gpu.

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OK. Questions/requirements.

Are you looking for something that will work now, vs something that will be good for years to come?

Is £400 your limit?

Can you live without SSD initially?

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Just now, El Cockardo said:

Can you live without SSD initially?

I have cheap 128GB SSD he can have £20 inc delivery.

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Hey guys thanks for all the replies, I'll look over them and reply when I get back. Might take up some of those offers ;p Will get back to you in a bit. I need to look over all the links too ;)

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Hey guys, got caught up in stuff sorry I didn't get back earlier

On 25/09/2016 at 15:51, VernCheese said:

Have a look at this dude. Good base to start and can upgrade whenever you want. But as it comes you can play bf fine on it.

 

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-kinetic-h3-intel-h110-configurable-skylake-atx-ddr4-gaming-pc-fs-18b-og.html

Looks quite nice to start with. I could even get it down to like 360 quid if I took it without a HDD. I could use my old HDD from current PC. Shame I can't get it without the PSU would be even cheaper (I have a decent one in my current PC)

On 25/09/2016 at 20:24, MoJo said:

I have cheap 128GB SSD he can have £20 inc delivery.

Could you PM me the make and model please.

On 25/09/2016 at 20:23, El Cockardo said:

OK. Questions/requirements.

Are you looking for something that will work now, vs something that will be good for years to come?

Is £400 your limit?

Can you live without SSD initially?

Something that will work for now. I don't buy new games often so I most likely won't need anything powerful in the near future (at least one year if I got something that will work for now or at least BF4)

At the moment I wouldn't want to go over 400 quid. 

As for the SSD I could probably get the one @MoJo is offering.

 

I will look for some bundles of 2nd hand stuff like the ones posted above and post my findings here for suggestions/comments. I guess I could save a bit on the PSU I have, I could maybe stick with the RAM memory I have atm (although its DDR2, not sure if a newer motherboard will support it. I can use the DVD drive I currently have, and even if I don't get an SSD now I can probably use the HDD I have. So maybe bundles are the best option for now. Or even getting second hand components separately. I will look around anyway.

@bizzl3 Are you really willing to part with this case? If so I'd happily accept it ^^

 

Question: When choosing a motherboard should I consider the type of processor socket it has as a primary thing? That's with a possibility of upgrades later in mind. If I'm not wrong the GPU, RAM slots are quite standard, same with the connectors for HDD/SSD, DVD drive etc. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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39 minutes ago, Teer said:

 

@bizzl3 Are you really willing to part with this case? If so I'd happily accept it ^^

 

Question: When choosing a motherboard should I consider the type of processor socket it has as a primary thing? That's with a possibility of upgrades later in mind. If I'm not wrong the GPU, RAM slots are quite standard, same with the connectors for HDD/SSD, DVD drive etc. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes mate, PM me an address and ill get it sent upto you. I hope you have a BIG desk. lol

With regard to CPU sockets, they evolve relative to breakthroughs in CPU technology. Say you get a brand new CPU and socket introduced to the market. Over the course of the sockets lifetime they will release a couple of upgraded CPUS to fit that same socket. After they have milked everyone for a ton of money :P they will upgrade the socket and the cycle starts all over again.  So what i guess im trying to say is that you cant buy a board today and hope that a CPU released 5  years from now will fit. Your components have to all be compatible with tech from the same "era" for lack of a better word lol.

With regard to the other slots, they do evolve but not nearly half as fast, so your DVD drive and hard drives will be fine. As for ram, DDR4 is pretty well established now, but seeing as youre going to be doing a budget build, then youre going to be looking at a DDR3 board and ram. 

As a first time builder, id strongly suggest getting a bundle. If you still decide you want to get stuff individually then definitely run your ideas past people here first as its very easy to buy stuff thats not compatible....

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